Johann Hindrich Johann auf der Heide's Parents Confirmed; Additional Note: On death of Infant Girl

by Darcy Kleeman Boock
23 October 2007

Revision: 27 October 2007: "Infant Death," by Darcy Kleeman Boock*

[The farm Johann auf der Heide in Kattenvenne]

Kattenvenne, 23. October 2007

Dear Darcy!

Thank you for the E-Mail and the old picture from Fred /Elise. It is very interesting for us too, that we know from you.

Yes, it is so, the father from Johann Hindrich Johann auf der Heide was “Jörgen Johann aufr Heede” (born 1711, death 16.3.1798 – he was 87 years old -) He married Anna (family name ?), she was born 1734, death 4.6.1782, she was 48 ½ years old.

The family-book from the church in Lienen started in the year 1711 – and so, we cann’t find here all the dates earlier.

You write, the family from Fred Aufderheide moved from Lienen-Kattenvenne to Lengerich-Ringel, and so, we must look in the emigrant-book from Lengerich, perhaps we find here the name. We know a person, they has this book, and we’ll ask him for a look.

We sent you an old photo from the farm Johann auf der Heide (Gerhards brother is living here). Gerhard, his father, his grandfather and so on were born in this house.

A family-story (telled from Gerhards father Gustav) is so:

Once, in the Midlle Ages, three brothers with the names Johann, Gerd and Dierk came to Kattenvenne. Here, they find enough ground, and they settled here. Johann and Dierk became ground with heather, and they build a farm on the heather. Gerd became borderland /march, and build here his farm. In the time(maybe 1500), who family-names created, Johann’s family-name started with “Jan up de Hee”, Dierks family-name with “Dierk up de Hee” and Gerd’s family-name with “Gerd vor der Mark”. So you can find all the three family-names in Kattenvenne now.

A brother from Gerhards grandfather (Friedrich Johann auf der Heide, born 1860 in Kattenvenne) emigrated in 1881 to USA, first to St. Louis, his uncle (Gerd vor der Mark) was living there. His name chanced also to Fred Aufderheide. Today, his grandchildren and great-grandchildren are living in Indianapolis. We visited their in September 2007.

Gerhard and Helga

Revision: Death of the twin baby girl, born 21 Feb 1800:

Hello All,

I didn't find a lot today at the Oakdale FHC, but I did make copies of some important family records. I also found the death of the twin baby girl born 21 Feb 1800 to Johann Hindrich Johann auf der Heide and Anna Marie Elisabeth Oberdalhoffs. She, Anna Catharine Elsabein, died 7 Mar 1800 and is listed as 12 days old, but that doesn't quite match up with her birthdate.I also failed to give you the parents of Anna Marie Elisabeth Oberdalhoffs. Her father is listed as Alte (old man) Averdalhoff and her mother is Catharina Herssmans. I've also seen this surname as Hersmanns, which I think is probably more correct.

Darcy